Sunday, December 16, 2012

Burning Bridges


One of the classic ways to delay an advancing force was to burn your bridges behind you! By the act of fire, making what had once been the easy crossing of a physical/geographical barrier became the same difficult if not impossible crossing it had been before the bridge was erected! Needless to say, as useful as this may be to cut off a threat, it also works in reverse as well! If one burns ones bridges, then going back to what was is just as difficult or as impossible! Once that bridge is burnt, there simply is no going back!

This example was such a poignant one to human life that the act of burning a bridge became part of our lexicon! Such that when it is said one has burnt one's bridges, it implies that the one doing the act of burning has done something which simply cannot be undone... The act of telling the boss they are a croaker sack stuffed full of shit comes to mind! While it may be quite satisfying to say it, once done, it is pretty much assured that the sayer is going to be looking for other "opportunities!"

Transition is also one of those things which like the above, once done, cannot be undone! Of for sure... you could cut your hair, toss the ill fitting clothes into the garbage along with the gobs of bad makeup, and restock your Ol' man-self from the Sears Men's Department of ugly clothes... but just as those things which you just purged were but simply trappings of gender and have little to do with ones sex, so to does their counter have little to do with rebuilding what was destroyed when your bridge was burnt!

Honestly? You folks gotta get way more serious about this and stop cheering each other on like lemmings! Cause when the pink fog wears off... There is a hard cold reality that is going to come crashing in that there is no going back! You simply cannot undo the damage done. The damage you have done to your familial relations is forever! The friendships which were lost to this endeavor are gone for good. You cannot set to right the business connections which were soured by your acts. What is done is done, and never will it be as it once was! And that is not even considering if one has had "the surgery" or not! Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Willy? Well, cut that little old rascal off and he's gone for good and tain't never going to pop his funny looking head up in this world ever again!

But what the hey! More than 80% of "trans-(wo)men" will never have surgery! Why? cause they're planning on keeping 'The Precious!" In fact, hearing them talk, it is not just "The Precious" they think they can hold onto... It seems they are under the delusion they can keep it all!  Why the house the status, the kids/grandkids, the job, the little woman, the membership in the Rotary Club, their 401k (minus of course the girl suit they want to buy!) the old drinking buddys!  Heck! It seems they are under the delusion that all of can transfer over cause they simply want it to!... Hey! They were men! They know how to do things happen, having spend 50 some years as a men building careers and by God, if they made it, then it's theirs to keep! Just listen to the things they all say to the little wifey! "but I won't change! I'll still be me! I'll just be female! We can even still have sex together as lesbians! Why are you being so mean! Why won't you support me?" Me me me!

Really? Really? The whole point of transition is to NOT be who you were! To NOT be a guy! Tell me? Where did she sign up to be in a lesbian relationship with a man in a dress who pretends to be female? No where? uhu...

Remember transition is an act of burning ones bridges... and what that means to the possibility of return? There isn't one! Even the idea of return is one colossal fail!  Remember, when it is gone, it is gone!

I know I know! I can see you saying "big deal!" You're smart people. You are on this side now, so what does it matter? "So what if I crossed my bridge then burnt it! Who the heck cares! I can simply "live as a woman" now!" Ahhh my dear dear campers! Were that life were but so simple! Sadly what is NEVER told to those who run quickly and gayly across their bridged, torches held to the high, is that there is not some bright shinning city called girl town just waiting for them on this side with welcoming arms! There is only a vast and empty wasteland full of the worst sort of hardship and despair! Oh don't get me wrong! There really is that city to be had, but it is a very long ways off. It is nothing like what you think it will be like, and getting there is an act of extremis! One which can only be done if one is completely willing to leave all the things from the old life, as well as anything which they were foolish enough to take across that bridge! Including all that they knew or more likely, all that they thought they knew about life on this side! Even then? The chances of them arriving safe and sane in that far and distant land is anything but assured!  The image of war refugees pouring out of the cities into the country side sticks in my mind. At first they will all be lugging all that they could carry with them. Clunking and bunmping slowly out of town... and many, even faced with the horrors that surround them are going to be unwilling to part with their "treasures!" So when exhaustion sets in, they are going to sit down, clutch their stuff, and there in the midst of all the others cast off junk they will die!

Who knows? Maybe the army won't cross? Maybe there might be a way for them to eek out a living here in the detritus and dead! Certainly some have! The net is filled with those who make Pink Essence's and TS Road Maps, but make no mistake! For all their noise, they are very few and very far between and having burnt their bridge and being unwilling to leave what was theirs, they are simply making the best of a very bad situation by feeding on you, and they are not and never will be one step closer to girl town than they were when they also sat down! Again... look at their numbers... how many do you think can live upon the hapless who followed them? Certainly not the hapless who will stupidly render their own flesh at their bidding so those few may stay contented and full?

No Dear ones! If you are one of those from Blog Town playing with matches on the bridge to the wastes of Jender, it might behoove you to consider long and hard what awaits you on the other side! You spent a life time playing by man rules... Are you really ready now to play by girl rules for the rest of your life? To be judged ONLY on your looks and to be found sorely wanting? To be willingly subservient to men and still ignored? To accept the complete loss of your male privileges while you watch other, still men exercise theirs? To know all that you once had will never be yours again? Are you willing to accept this struggle and see it to completion knowing your chances of success are minuscule and even then, it will take the rest of your life?

If the answer to any of those is no... then I strongly suggest that you keep your matches at home! Cross the bridge if you want! Put on a frock and play in the wastelands to your hearts content, but remember... when the devil is in your ear telling you how it will be all better if that bridge were gone... The odds are, that it will be anything but!
MKIA

81 comments:

  1. Wow! Great post. Excellent imagery. Terrific writing. Would that those who might profit the most from these wise words would read and heed the vitally important message within.

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  2. "The whole point of transition is to NOT be who you were!"

    For some maybe, but I'm not entirely sure I can fully agree with this statement personally.

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  3. The other goal in burning a bridge is to keep others from following you.

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  4. WOW! good to see anon was paying attention!

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  5. Good post MKIA
    And how true it is, if you don't burn those bridges you will always be known as that other person, the one who thinks he is a girl. The company transvestite, the weirdo who wears his wife's cloths wherever he goes.

    The tranny.
    You will be known by anything and everything but a women unless you hide in that big gay closet called the GLBT.

    NYF

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  6. @ Renee,
    If you are still the same as you were, then you really didn't transition did you? I mean it kinda flies in the face of the word itself! You know... trans, and in transformation? Oh, not that your not having transitioning is a bad thing! Far from it! It is much better to not cut the branch off one is sitting upon if one is not the least sure they can fly!

    However, on the other hand, if you are trying to convince yourself and others that you have in fact "transitioned" and your view point is that nothing changed? Then you're the idiot child with a book of matches, time and a bucket full of gasoline just waiting for the inevitable to happen!

    Just don't say no one warned you!

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    1. Perhaps you're correct Miz know-it-all, and if that is the case please accept my apologies! I suppose you'd only have that name if it were the truth and I certainly cannot make such a claim for myself, as I am only a woman whose life has taught her more humility than she often fears she can endure.

      However, along with most of the women I know, life has taught me that most words have specific meanings and that language used is most important if we are to communicate effectively with our peers.

      Perhaps you might like to re-read my comment and examine whether you'd fully understood what I was trying to say before suggesting I might be an idiot if I did not agree with you (what your motivation for doing that would be? I have no idea), with what you'd written and how you'd worded the message you (hopefully) were trying to share.

      Of course, on the other hand perhaps you might not like to as well, it's up to you.

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    2. Ah "Renee". Such a sophist, you are. Bit of a pontificating story teller as well.

      I'll provide you with my commentary here since I doubt it will see the light of day on your shiny new blog.

      ""...women I’ve come to know of who are a VERY long time post-operative and transitioned early in their lives"

      Really!?! ROFLMAO You have got to be kidding! What self respecting woman would ever be in a position for you to have "known" her. Oh, sorry. I forgot to consider a "trans-woman".

      You are insulting the intelligence of your readers. Even your conclusions show a complete lack of understanding and serve only to highlight your fantasies and wishful thinking.

      Nice try, but not even close."

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    3. Thank you Anonymous, I appreciate your "commentary", it's nice to see independent thought and honest un-censored opinion from people and not just the usual status quo for a change.

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  7. Great blog post, your good with words.

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  8. Dang me, thought that with ol' Willy turned inside out an' tucked inside me jus' so, an' nice teen boobs that I grew myself, an' red lipstick on, an' a fancy Genduh Certificate in my handbag, an' even a Pass Port, that folks'd see that I was a genuine livin' doll. But now yo tell me that I was bein' optimistick, 'an greatly mistaken.

    Funny thing, lots of folks keep sendin' me nice Christmas Cards addressed to Lucy, with kisses an' sweet words on 'em. Now why would that be, huh?

    Lucy

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  9. Well ah, let me give that about 1/2 seconds thought.

    Other trannies, no doubt. Tranny chasers aplenty, and of course your friendly car dealer pandering for more of your service pounds.

    BTW Have you ever figured out what that fancy inverted ol' willy is for and how/if it works?

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  10. Gosh, that's pretty strong, Anonymous. Actually the cards split about 60% family and neighbours, 40% trans friends.

    As for the 'sex reassignment surgery' I went through, a few questions for you:

    1. Do you know precisely what is involved?
    2. Do you know how difficult it is to get?
    3. Do you understand the deep self-questioning that each person facing this step goes through?
    4. Do you really suppose it's done simply to wear female clothes without showing a budge in the wrong place?

    I wonder if you're the same Anonymous who pops up on other blogs, mine included. Don't you admit it's cowardly to conceal who you are?

    Finally, if you believe all transsexual people are clinically deluded and need therapy, where is your compassion, kindness and proper concern? When was mockery and sneering language ever the right approach to a mental problem?

    Basically, I think Ms Know-It-All's post is a perfectly good warning to people prone to wishful thinking. Transition means a whole new life, and while you can take your cherished personal possessions with you, and your lifelong interests, interpersonal relationships will, as she points out, never be the same. There is indeed no going back. But then, you are free to go forward, to an awful lot of things that make the new life feel wonderful, whatever the losses and limitations.

    Lucy



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  11. "play in the wasteland..." this is the most evocative description of that place between the bridge and girl town populated by the many.

    This is such a well written post.

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  12. "ol' Willy turned inside out an' tucked inside me jus' so"
    "an' a fancy Genduh Certificate in my handbag"

    "Gosh, that's pretty strong"

    The irony of your "mockery and sneering language" is underwhelming to say the least.

    As to your holiday card collection, while nearly half are from your trans* friends, who is to say that the other half, are not from those family and friends willing to tolerate and maybe even accept "the man who would be queen"?

    Oh and BTW, attempting to deflect my question about your one year experience with, "ol' Willy turned inside out an' tucked inside me jus' so, an' nice teen boobs that I grew myself, an' red lipstick on, an' a fancy Genduh Certificate in my handbag, an' even a Pass Port..." is just a bit trans*parent, don't ya think?

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  13. I'm calling time on you, Anonymous. There's no substance in what you say in your comments: it's mere quoting, I don't think you're sincere, and I've better things to get on with.

    Bye.

    Lucy

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  14. Just like a man. Doesn't like what the little woman has to say, he calls time, ends the conversation and flounces.

    Gee...all I did was point to a bit of typically male-privileged hypocracy. Oh silly me.

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  15. Sorry but when I read a sentence like this...."as I am only a woman whose life has taught her more humility than she often fears she can endure." I cringe. Much better to simply say something like "because life has often humbled me".

    I know it is a small thing and I admit being a tad pedantic but in my experience anyone who has to assert being a woman probably isn't.

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  16. OOPS! New Rules. Due to all the unwarranted controversy caused by those absolutely dreadful anonymous comments, only those with Verifable Certificates of Authenticity as Homo Sapiens and Members in Good Standing of the LGBTg Borg or the TeeGee MAFIA will be allowed to comment anywhere but here.

    So Sayeth Hir Highness, Sir/'Lady', Melford.

    So. Henceforthe:

    New Rules of the Game: Translation

    Anyone not agreeing with Lucy shall be deemed a troll.

    All comments not agreeing with Lucy shall be condemned as an intentional affront intended to, "needle and irritate".

    Any effort by those commenting reasonably or sincerely shall be deemed an effort to, " push a tranny into an anguished response", and treated accordingly.

    So unless you are out and proud to be trans, do not bother to confuse Lucy with the facts.


    All trolls shall be demonized and pilloried.

    Only Lucy shall be allowed to use "edgy and provacative language".

    Only Lucy shall be allowed to use "mockery and sneering language".

    Should any commentor have the timerity to call Lucy out as being hypocritical they shal be immediately deemed to be a troll and treated accordingly.

    Signed

    Anonymous18

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  17. Thank you Deena, for exemplifying my point on the importance of Language when attempting to communicate effectively with one's Peers.

    I find it fascinating how much you can tell about who and what a person is and the life they do have and have lived, simply by the words they would chose for themselves.

    In response to your comment I would say that whilst what you have written may (as you've said) reflect YOUR experience, what I have written is the most accurate way to convey what I was saying of myself and mine.

    SO! Thank you, BUT! I am a grown woman with a mind and a voice of my own and I am NOT in need of you (or any other man for that matter) to tell me who and (or) WHAT I am, nor tell others about the life I (not you) have lived.

    I do However, hope (for your sake) that your life and the people around you are at least treating you kindly and with as much respect as is practicable.

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    1. Now there you go again Renee with this..." Thank you, BUT! I am a grown woman with a mind and a voice of my own". Pat yourself on the back enough and you will need some lotion for that sore arm.

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  18. My apologies, that should be spelled choose

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  19. Oh my, Renee! Aren't you the 'catty' one! ROFLMAO!!!

    BTW...Just what is an Orthodox transsexual?

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  20. not all of us here Deena, are trying to be something we are not.

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    1. How interesting. I had no idea you were the spokesman. Or maybe I should say spokesperson so you don't think I am somehow mis-gendering you.

      But please clarify that concept for me. What exactly are you not trying to be?

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  21. I'm certainly NOT trying to (to paraphrase on MKIA's words) NOT be who you are/am/was/were/and HAVE always and WILL always BE!

    in fact I'm not Trying to be anything at all!

    the purpose of transition for a Transvestite is to NOT be who they were, to "escape"

    Transsexuals transition to be who they ARE and have always KNOWN themselves to be.

    So what was the reason you all transitioned again? (I’m betting everyone is changing their “Tune” now huh? Funny how that happens!)

    And MKIA, at what point did I say my LIFE did not change?

    THIS is my point! stop stroking your egos so friggin’ hard and THINK about how you write what you are trying to tell people and instead of jumping to conclusions READ what people write.

    Control the language and you control the narrative!

    And unlike "holly" MKIA, I think you SUCK! with words

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    1. "Control the language and you control the narrative!"

      Sitting here with a wry smile on my face, amused by at the woman who comes onto my blog, to a post about how the vast majority who tread this path are extremely delusional and headed for a life they would never willingly pick for themselves.

      Then to say that she cannot agree that the point of transition is to in fact TRANSITION? To which I reply.

      Again this is a post on making a foolish and undo-able acts. That if one is in the act of burning one's bridge or has already burned one's bridge with no forethought to what is on this side, that they are an idiot child... Wait I think I said it better in the first reply!

      "However, on the other hand, if you are trying to convince yourself and others that you have in fact "transitioned" and your view point is that nothing changed? Then you're the idiot child with a book of matches, time and a bucket full of gasoline just waiting for the inevitable to happen!"

      From this, "Renne" has ascertained that I was calling her an idiot, and that I do not have the skill of reading comprehension because I have not sussed out the true and might I add, hidden meaning" of her words...

      Yet I'm the one who's with language has issues? Renee! Renee! Renee! Here Hon! Take a chill pill and re-read the words yourself wrote, the ones that I quoted at the start of this reply!

      "Control the language and you control the narrative!"

      Frankly, I don't know squat about you, other than the little I have read, (most of which seems rather pedantic and self aggrandizing) but in this one M'Dear, you hit the nail on the head because the control of the word is exactly what men, which most of the TG are if you have not noticed, do to gain power over others in a conversation... It is why we suddenly have trans-everything because these men wish to hid from the fact that they, in acting somewhat feminine, even with the act being nothing but warped caricature, have lowered themselves as men!

      So mayhaps you would care to do a re-start? Get your panties out of the ungodly twist that you put em in and tell us in simple language what it is you need to say? Cause, you really suck with words!
      MKIA

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  22. Oh gosh, I think I got poor Renee all wound up. Renee I was just trying to help you improve your narrative. You see, I have never met a woman who had to assert that fact. Now calm down and reflect on that. Did your own mother ever look at you and say "listen buster I am a woman"?

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  23. What, OTHER than a "woman" would you have me refer to myself as Deena? And NO my mother never said that to me but then my mother barely said a single meaningful thing to me in my entire life, so I fail to see what relevance that has any way.

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    1. OK, I have a little time on my hands so let's play Watson and Holmes. Watson asks "and what do you conclude from what I just said"?

      Holmes replies "well in your very next reply you said...
      "Must I?

      you're all "women" are you not? you have all paid the price to be who you truly believe you are yes? it is what you all rattle on about constantly, you've all been there, you'd know!, you would not be "full of it" now and trying to make yourselves out as something you are not by chance?

      I'd say in response to you MKIA, what any woman might:

      If you don't get it, then I am CERTAINlY NOT about to spell it out for you.

      use your brains (as women are compelled by life to do at EVERY opportunity from birth!) and truly read what I've written, short of that, ignore and dismiss me as all men do to women, and just as you all have up until now and never seek to better your perfect and all-knowing selves.

      and don't give yourselves too much credit, my "panities" are not in any bunch over the likes of you lot.

      what people (women especially) truly think/mean, is more often than NOT in what they DON'T say aloud. Learn to "read" that, and you will know who you truly ARE to them."

      Now Watson let me adjust it for you to remove the obvious trans speak. Try it this way....


      Seems to me that some of you are disingenuous.

      MKIA I don't think you understand what I am trying to say and I am perplexed how to explain it more clearly.

      Please read carefully what I've written. Though you may dismiss it please explain why.

      I am not upset. I am trying to understand more of your perspective and provide some of my own.

      In my experience it is often more important what is left unsaid. Those we associate with may avoid telling you what they truly think out of courtesy.

      Now Watson if you compare the two texts you will find that I have removed elements that a. assert your womanhood because those clearly tip off a discerning reader that you have insecurities surrounding that issue b. I have removed your insults to MKIA because you are a guest on MKIA's site and those are unwarranted discourtesies c. it is now focused on communication rather than one upping the other person which hopefully you will agree is the better purpose.

      Renee you may not agree with me. That would not surprise me because it is far from unusual. Please understand that I wish you all the best in life. In any case it was a fun exercise. Thanks.



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  24. Must I?

    you're all "women" are you not? you have all paid the price to be who you truly believe you are yes? it is what you all rattle on about constantly, you've all been there, you'd know!, you would not be "full of it" now and trying to make yourselves out as something you are not by chance?

    I'd say in response to you MKIA, what any woman might:

    If you don't get it, then I am CERTAINlY NOT about to spell it out for you.

    use your brains (as women are compelled by life to do at EVERY opportunity from birth!) and truly read what I've written, short of that, ignore and dismiss me as all men do to women, and just as you all have up until now and never seek to better your perfect and all-knowing selves.

    and don't give yourselves too much credit, my "panities" are not in any bunch over the likes of you lot.

    what people (women especially) truly think/mean, is more often than NOT in what they DON'T say aloud. Learn to "read" that, and you will know who you truly ARE to them.

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  25. "you're all "women" are you not? you have all paid the price to be who you truly believe you are yes? it is what you all rattle on about constantly, you've all been there, you'd know!, you would not be "full of it" now and trying to make yourselves out as something you are not by chance?"

    Sorry but I simply do not understand what you are trying to say here. You start with a rhetorical question which you expand on. Then you say that "whomever" "all rattle on about constantly.." It is here where the comment just falls apart doesn't it. I think you you are missing an "if" before "you've".

    So I am going to assume that you intended the "if"..

    In the context of your first comment on the blog post you told us that you personally cannot quite agree with the statement that "The whole point of transition is to NOT be who you were!".

    You also told us , provided my interpretation of your passage quoted above is correct that "if you have been there, you would not be "full of it" and draw the conclusion because we're full of it we must not be what we claim to be and by extension are not qualified to speak to the issue.

    That is some seriously twisted argument really. It all hinges on the "full of it", which is simply a a rhetorical device to discredit the writer but of course not the argument. The problem seems to be that controlling language is not enough. Leaving the subtext wide open, you open yourself up to discovery. Ask yourself what you really have to control in a civilized and meaningful discourse.

    I could tell you that: "if you don't get it, then I am CERTAINLY NOT about to spell it out". But generally I dislike empty rhetorical devices that never advance the discourse. So I am going to refrain from doing so.

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  26. Having slept on this minor tempest in a teapot, (Good job, Renee), I have awaken with a bit of egg on my face. It seems to me that this statement, "The whole point of transition is to NOT be who you were!"...has at least one interesing ambiguity open to interpretation.

    "...who you WERE", as opposed to who you ARE.

    If one is IN FACT a woman, a neurological FEMALE, (albeit one lacking the usual requisite reproductive equipment), then it would follow, would it not, that "transition" does not really change who 'you' actually are, (IE: a woman).

    Perhaps this is what Renee read into this easily mis-interpreted comment. If this is in fact the case, would this not shine a slightly different light on Renee's discordant comment?

    I must agree with MKIA. K.I.S.S.

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  27. There ya go Deena! You got it ALMOST perfect, except for your assertion that I'm insecure (and) OR that I'm interested in better understanding your (collective) opinions and perspectives. (in fact, the truth is I couldn't give a Rat's canootie what a bunch of pontificating late transitioners think)

    Keep at it! You might even make a partial woman yourself one of these days!

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  28. My Oh My Renee! We certainly seem to have something all up in a twist, and I guess if it ain't panties, that only leaves boxers or briefs... oh, "depends?" Oh well whatever floats your boat!

    So let me get this straight, having tried my best to figure out where this went wrong I have gone to your "lengthy," and still oddly meandering blog and I am left with the understanding that all younger transtitioners who do not postpone surgery so they can masculinize first and father a few rug rats are headed to a spinsters doom, alone and unloved! Darn! Best get right on with letting my sisters who transitioned some fifty years back know about this! Cause they all seem to be under the delusion that they are happy! Wow... glad I know so's I can let em know just how utterly wrong they really are!

    Then there are those who do it later who are to a one per you also delusional it seems, that is unless they have first fathered themselves a whole passel of cookie munchers... if not, then their dying alone in the gutter is assured! In fact it would seem that by your account that anyone who dares to have SRS without progeny enough to man a farm is headed for a life of utter ruin and complete despair!

    Darn! I'm guessing that would also include all the women without a history who are childless too? Are they also to be consigned by you to rag pile of nothingness because they did not squeeze out a few? Double drat! Well no time like the present to tell my childless by choice friend who is off at this moment in the Bahamas drinking something sweet and alcoholic that she is in fact miserable as I'm sure she will want to know!

    So lets total it up shall we?
    You seem to have great regrets about your own SRS... to the point that you not only made but kept horrible snap shots of your "mutilation?"
    In fact, you seem to think that SRS is generally a bad idea all around!
    You spend an inordinate amount of time on line "calling folks out!"
    You take umbrage with others for the personal slight of their not recognizing that your words were those of God his-self as they flowed from your lips!
    You assign child birth as the only viable function of all females!
    Ya know? After further reflection, I think that I may have to agree with you after all... Cause it seems pretty clear that Renee have certainly have not changed on iota from what you were before you transtioned have you!

    MKIA

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    1. Is there some reason we're all pretending not to know who this guy is?

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    2. Please enlighten me. I am clueless.

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    3. You mean there is a fox in the henhouse!?!

      A-18

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    4. Not a fox. More like a loon.

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    5. Yup, a loon assembling a new stolen (and quite implausible) narrative from skimming these blogs. If you've been around a while you might even recognize pieces cribbed from blogs you read yourself. C'mon, did everybody sleep through last week or something?

      Pro-Tip: If you say you know who "that guy" is, the transvestite dick-measuring contest comes to a screeching stop.

      (The first Anon)

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    6. How many Transsexauls have you met in your life Miz knows-some-stuff?

      you seem to think that SRS is generally a bad idea all around!~Miz Knows-it-all

      Interesting that you read that as my stand point on SRS, maybe I should become another one of the multitude of cheer leaders on the web, sending people off to surgery so that they can become something they are NOT?

      Not everyone reads what I do, HOW I do.

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    7. "Miz knows-some-stuff"?

      You gave yourself away with that one my dear, because only one person calls her that. I won't spoil the fun though.

      Hope you are doing well.

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  29. I've been called a great many things in my life, but never June hingle

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  30. @ The self-described, fraudulent and wanna-be, now busted PLAEGERIST, AKA, The First Anon.

    Either you cannot count or are such a loser you cannot find your ass, (or your DICK), with both hands.

    I was the first to post anonymously on this particular post and I now sign my comments A-18, or Anon-18.

    So...Get a Life! Get a name, and get in line.

    Friggen' moron trannys can't even count!

    A-18

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  31. Pro-Tip: If you say you know who "that guy" is, the transvestite dick-measuring contest comes to a screeching stop.

    ROFLMAO!! that's pretty acurate actually! the first person to "out" someone generally tends to be a transvestite (and for all I know, probably has the biggest) and hence the "winner"

    I think this "Renee" person might actually be worth reading, she seems to have all of you worked up with your true colours showing for the world to see!

    Even to the point where you're all ready to jump on the TG bandwagon and start playing

    "if you can't beat them out them"


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    1. I hear ya, VB, but I call it like this:

      First person to "out" someone is probably the transvestite who lost, doubling down and re-posturing. The person "outed" is only rarely the actual person you're looking for - pointing at someone else to dodge personal responsibility has been a transvestite calling card since forever, even before Wilchins first started printing "Transsexual Menace" T-shirts to wear when pissing off the public with bizarre antics.

      The "all of you" to whom you refer as being "worked up" looks like a puppet show to me. Hard to tell, to the extent that the particular psychosis of runaway transvestites in middle- and late-middle age is so specific that they can seem like clones of each other at times, and it is easily faked by provocateurs on top of it.

      I still say that the "Orthodox Transsexual" site is full of crap, a ham-handed transsexual impersonation attempt, nothing more. I also posit that if "Renee" really has any gory immediate post-operative photos, they're for himself, as a sort of DIY aversion therapy to prevent him from doing it. ("It's for a friend." Sure. When's that ever true?) And the "long-term transsexuals" he's known? Mostly Liz's blog, augmented by his own imagination, that's obvious.

      Crackpot shots in the dark, nothing more, all of it - but it's what my intuition says. Better to have to apologize to a good person, than to reveal too much to a bad one at any rate, so if it turns out I'm wrong about all or part of it, no biggie, right? .

      In case the title/photo on this thread really is also an embedded cultural reference and not just a coincidence, I'll follow in kind from the same general era and culture, and sign this:

      "That awful sound that completely destroys your orgasm on the MKIA Channel."

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    2. Amber,
      1. Get over yourself.
      2. Get out from behind your computer screen and go live life as JUST a woman (WITHOUT a history) for a while
      3. Show some respect to the personalities in this thread SOME of them I know personally, have walked the path you THINK you are walking and gone a damn sight further than you will ever look like making it unless you start to learn some humility.

      I offered you my ear and thoughts if you need them and that stands, but it is impossible to help those who think themselves to good to need help.

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  32. What I think Renee? Is that you are playing a linguistical game by being purposefully obtuse with your writing, then when we cannot divine the magical and correct hidden text within your holy writ, or perhaps, it is your mind you wish us to suss? You become smugly contrarian!

    But what the heck, I'll bite... What I read is that you seem to be arguing both sides. That as most old timers know. Despite the term, one cannot change sex! That you are either male or female albeit with the wrong genitalia which can be corrected... While at the same time it would also appear that you could be arguing the straight TG dogma (ironically as you asked... I know quite a few women of history, including the woman this narrative line was stolen from) that they were always female! Which as that makes them chicks with dicks they don't need any Ol' stinking surgeries! Cause their dicks, I mean neo clits are just as Alice in wonderland girly as any woman sans history.

    So! Which is it? Might you acquiesce to having clear written congress with us lower mortals... or shall we simply continue to bask in your greatness and wonder?

    MKIA

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  33. What I write MKIA, is complicated by design to encourage people to use their brain! it is my experience that those with a TRULY life threatening condition they need to resolve, WILL invest the time and effort in understanding EVERYTHING they find BEFORE making an irrevocable life altering decision. Those who simply want to live a fantasy and whom are content to delude themselves will dismiss me (as men always do women), and if they want to doom themselves to the lives of dispare I've spoken about on my blog then what has that to do with me and my life and the lives of those like me? Not a damn thing!

    So believe it or not, my agenda is NOT about you (rest easy) it is about the counteracting the damage your careless choice of words cause true transsexual women and the life they can live.

    It is obvious though, that my intent is too much for you all to bear so you have my apologies, and I will leave you be as of now (finally)

    Best wishes to you all!

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  34. So then, despite the rhetorical clash we do not disagree in the least! Though I am still quite puzzled... Given the numbers of women I know, self included who most certainly fit "True TS" including many who did this back in the single digit days, most of whom agree with me. How do you see me as having damaged them? This really is an honest question because my curiosity is quite piqued as my intent is the exact opposite of what you have posited at my feet
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    1. Damaged THEM?.... They are just women according to you, and if what I'm SUPPOSED to believe (from what I read on blogs such as this) is true, then all that is transGENDER should have no more effect on them than it does any other woman.

      NOW, try reading what you've written from the point of view of a 20 year old girl who's never been allowed to BE a girl, and who has just had her whole world and family desert her. Who has no financial means to accomplish what she needs to, who has no home of her own or assets, no qualifications with which to earn what is required.

      What do you think she'd take from this?

      Perhaps it's alright for you all to sit atop your towers and belittle the seriousness of all this transgender bullshit with valloud humor and sarcasm but I for one take this VERY seriously

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    2. Valloud should have been CALLOUS.

      My apologies, iPhone and blogger do not work very well together.

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    3. The damage done to those older ones who have long since made it to the promised land, and the damage is considerable thank you, is that they must become custodians of their history like those who safeguard nuclear wastes! Because once it is known, their whole being will be rewritten, no matter how lovely or how long they have been on this side, or for that matter how truly they are women, all that will be stripped from them as they become defacto "men in dresses!" Thanks in no small measure to the efforts of our "transjactivists" becasue we are all the same remember? LGBT? Which means that it is not just us but our boyfriends and husbands have their sexuality called into question as they too become defacto "gay!" So I do call BS on that it is not in the least damaging to the older ones...

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    4. Why the hell should transwhacktivists care one iota about how their actions reflect on our STRAIGHT husbands and boyfriends? They don't even care about their own STRAIGHT wives, and instead go around telling people that "we're a lesbian couple".

      They call that "educating" and "Transgender 101".

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    5. But you asked about the young girl who at 20 was tossed to the curb by family with no place to go... (for the record I was 19) Is this trans-jendar-nonsense helpful? Not in the least! Let me put it this way!

      Given the choice, should she be hearing the words of one who made it. One who can tell her that yes the road is going to be hard, harder than anything she can imagine, but that if she perseveres, the white picket fence, the husband and family she has always dreamed of can really be had?
      Or should she swallow the complete BS of those self aggrandizing old men who want to take their hobby of playing girl to a new level that she can never have that? That she will never leave any of this behind? That she must become the eternal victim, weariung her scarlet T that defines everything there is about her, just waiting for her next turn in the restroom to become her dying act? That the only thing of value she can do with her sordid useless life is to sacrifice her youth and beauty to the alter of Out Loud and Proud? Cause that is pretty much their message! Stay in the ghetto with us! Don't go out "there!" Out there is dark and scary and there be monsters! Stay in here and we will love you!

      So can I be a sarcastic old biddie? Hell yes! It's one of my many many charms, but have I also helped others with my words? Yes I have! Because I don't think you understand how alone this TG nonsense makes the ones it does not fit feel!

      So yes it is biting, but what I write is one of the damn few counters there are to the endless songs of the trans-syrens, calling those young ones to make their lives harder and smaller so they can be fed upon by those who are nothing at all like them!

      MKIA

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    6. The damage done to those older ones who have long since made it to the promised land, and the damage is considerable thank you~MKIA

      I did not say they were uneffected or unaffectable (Thank YOU), that is the assertion of YOU and others who state the things you do about yourselves on these blogs.

      is that they must become custodians of their history like those who safeguard nuclear wastes! Because once it is known, their whole being will be rewritten

      custodians of what history? did they NOT "burn all the bridges" to their male past as you've written about here? are you encouraging others to do something you and others have NOT yourselves DONE?

      (for the record I was 19)

      !9 when what? your parents kicked you out? SO?! did you spring forth with the guts determination and know how to transition? what decisions did you make? and why?

      Given the choice, should she be hearing the words of one who made it. One who can tell her that yes the road is going to be hard, harder than anything she can imagine, but that if she perseveres, the white picket fence, the husband and family she has always dreamed of can really be had?

      YES! she probably should, THIS is the message she SHOULD hear, so are you TRULY that person? how does she KNOW that?

      THIS is the message from your post that her fear WILL cause her to focus on:

      Don't go out "there!" Out there is dark and scary and there be monsters! Stay in here~MKIA

      There is only a vast and empty wasteland full of the worst sort of hardship and despair! Oh don't get me wrong! There really is that city to be had, but it is a very long ways off. It is nothing like what you think it will be like, and getting there is an act of extremis! One which can only be done if one is completely willing to leave all the things from the old life, as well as anything which they were foolish enough to take across that bridge! Including all that they knew or more likely, all that they thought they knew about life on this side! Even then? The chances of them arriving safe and sane in that far and distant land is anything but assured! The image of war refugees pouring out of the cities into the country side sticks in my mind. At first they will all be lugging all that they could carry with them. Clunking and bunmping slowly out of town... and many, even faced with the horrors that surround them are going to be unwilling to part with their "treasures!" So when exhaustion sets in, they are going to sit down, clutch their stuff, and there in the midst of all the others cast off junk they will die!~MKIA

      what you've written, whilst well intentioned, will only drive her towards the "supportive" arms of "transgender"

      All that I'm saying/asking is that people give SERIOUS thought to what and HOW they write and the repercussions it may have, how fucking hard is that to do?

      Because I don't think you understand how alone this TG nonsense makes the ones it does not fit feel!~MKIA

      Really?

      If you weren't my friend I'd tell you to go to hell!

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    7. Oh, And lest it be said that I am homphobic? My issue with being included in gay is not that it is gay per-say It is that a false sexual identity is being applied to me which is not in the least reflective of my actual sexuality nor that of my lovers! That makes it a demeaning and dehumanizing act (the recasting of sexual identity) and frankly that makes me angry!
      I mean for shits sake! If I had been gay, it would have certainly made my life far easier!
      MKIA

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    8. Renee, instead of telling me what a total fuck up I am, would you please cool your anger and righteous indignation and take some time to actually enlighten me about what it is that makes me so fucked up? Cause I really and honestly, do not have no clue what it is you want other than I write my blog in some totally different way that I am currently!

      Because without such input, all I have to go on is my own reaction to the insanity that I see around me! I see aged men getting all dewy eyed over putting on lip gloss and suddenly convinced they are "trans-women" I see these same men in the news with some regularity here in the real world being caught up in such things as the Colleen Francis debacle trying to convince the world that their penis is a girls penis!. Each and every one of them doing this from a completely self serving stance that they, and I and every kid who was born with the the hell to be spit between a sexual perception of self that is in direct conflict with their physical being are all one big happy family!

      I see the young and their families being set upon by these same leaches at every single gathering or action taken on their behalf. Not as supporters mind you, but only so they can prey upon them as fodder to be the face of what they want as their fantasy!

      Frankly, of this makes me quite angry! In what should be the time of the greatest ease in transition since Christine stepped off that plane at Idlewile, it is becoming more difficult not less!

      So yes, in typical MKIA fashion, I could toss out some sort of back hand but I will be perfectly honest, I am not a cold nor callus woman and like all flawed mortals which I very much am, I relate to the world through my own experiences! As do you! Apparently our experiences are not the same nor are we seeing the world from the same vantage point, and no I did not spring forth fully formed at 19, That was simply the launching for my trip to hell!

      So would you be so kind and recast what it is you want because if I am indeed harming others I want to know, and dolt that I apparently am, I cannot gather from your blog, or your comments to date, what that is!
      MKIA

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    9. At no point did I say you or anyone else was a fuck up, and I would hope you wouldn't ever think I believe that about you.

      I'm simply asking for decorum.

      When you take transition past what it is (Friggin' hard but still POSSIBLE) and sensationalise it, make it more than that, the greatest "challenge" known to MAN, you invite every "man" who ever donned a pair of panties to prove himself and his manhood! and knowing what we should of men by now, it should be understood that rather than admit failure WHEN they fall short, they will instead try and redefine what they need to be "successful".

      What I'm asking is that we say what is truthful and nothing more, that way those who need to know it is possible DO and those looking for a "lifestyle" aren't made so damn horny at the thought of their ultimate display of machismo.

      They've got enough amunition as it is without us loading more bullets for them and pushing our young away from us towards them in fear.

      Just THINK that's all! you've lived it Miz, you know what it is to experience first hand, if we stop helping them with what to say through our own careless behaviour (frustrated or not!), then soon enough they will self destruct all on their own.

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    10. An example of what I "think" is the point of all of this; I've stopped saying "I love you" to my father on the phone. I still call him, still SHOW my love for him, but I've stopped TELLING him.

      Men don't see "actions" they don't consider repercussions, verbal affirmation is what most of them use as truth. (Someone calls them "she" then it must be true right? they MUST be a "woman" because surely people wouldn't say it if they didn't REALLY mean it)

      It’s only been a month or two, but my dad has noticed and he asked why I'd stopped telling him when I was speaking with him the other night?

      He’s so scared that I don't, in spite of the fact that all the other expressions are still there, that when I did say the words he cried he was so relieved.

      so for all your noble efforts to describe the difficulty of full transition MKIA and the peril that awaits those who are not cut out for it, all that they really read from what you've said is that it's possible for them to become a woman, BUT! That only the toughest men will ever make it.

      How many men do you think would back away from that challenge? (Social conditioning being what it is and all?)

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  35. Years have passed and I keep thinking
    What a fool I've been
    I look back into the past and
    Think of way back then
    I know that I lost everything I thought that I could win
    I guess I should have listened to my friends

    All the burning bridges that have fallen after me
    All the lonely feelings and the burning memories
    Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door
    Burning bridges lost forevermore

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  36. I would like thank this most recent Anon, (5:19PM), for this poignantly painful expression of an honestly personal assessment.
    I do believe it sums up MKIA's point nicely.

    Thank You.

    A-18

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  37. Really? Here's the first verse (which sounds like some people I've known)...

    Friends all tried to warn me
    But I held my head up high
    All the time they warned me
    But I only passed them by
    They all tried to tell me
    But I guess I didn't care
    I turned my back and
    Left them standing there

    All the burning bridges that have fallen after me
    All the lonely feelings and the burning memories
    Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door
    Burning bridges lost forevermore

    No need to thank me though. Thanks should go to the Mike Curb Congregation for a great song.

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  38. I wonder how many TG's and worse yet, post-op TG's, might find this painfully relevant?

    My guess is that this was the point of MKIA's post, and possibly, the well occluded point of Renee's.

    A-18

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  39. Sensationalism attracts sensationalists (case in point, Kathryn Dumke) and in my experience, there is NOTHING sensational about being 1.a woman and 2. Born transsexual.

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  40. You can't caution a man about the dangers in engaging in ANY activity they won't listen. They don't read directions and often won't follow directions. So does anybody really expect a Tee-Gee to be mindful the dangers involved in transition, hell no. I really don't like to see people get hurt but they won't listen.

    It's a MAN'S world and that is why it's so fucked up.

    NYF

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  41. What a waste of the English language this is. I'd call it even for the "better than thou's" and the "not good enough's". ......Jump Ball

    ...and if the anonymous people would "show who and what they are," they may have won this one. I just can't give credit to an anonymous black hole.

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    1. Speaing of 'blackholes' why not shut yours and stop polluting the world with your pathetic, resentful anger.

      What a LOSER.

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    2. Hey Toilet Boy! Stephen! You're just a pathetic loser from Buttfuck, Arkansas with a bad comb-over, who doesn't even play dressup anymore. You have NOTHING to add to this conversation, so just toddle on back to your tarpaper shack and leave the women alone!

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    3. Why show who we are, some of us use our real names elsewhere on the net. Maybe we don't want some sissy from nowheresville harassing us on line.
      You Tee-Gees love to out people, make threats and cyber stalk us when you find out who we are.
      Considering I take a proactive approach toward self defense I think it's better this way.

      All you need to know sissyboy is my name is
      NYF which stands for
      Not Your Friend.


      Now go away and go play with yourself, leave us alone.


      NYF

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  42. The more I read of your vile excrement, the more I'm convinced you're really Cathy Brennan.

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    1. Who is Cathy Brennan? Is she a tranny?

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    2. If that was directed at me,
      Thank You.

      NYF

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  43. hummmm... Lest see shall we?
    I don't live in "The Old Line State"
    I'm straight
    I've never given birth
    I'm not an attorney
    I'm not a radical feminist
    Would seem to say that your conjecture is a tad off.

    Now on the other hand, if by vile excrement, you mean my unwillingness to give a standing ovation to delusion and my steadfast devotion to saying that the Emperor is buck naked? Then perhaps there is a similarity betwixt Cathy and Moi!

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    1. Take it as a complement MKIA.
      That makes you more human than these Tee-Gees.


      NYF

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    2. It really is a compliment! Cathy like you also see's these Tee-Gee's as sub-human. Good for you for standing up for what you believe! Don't let these MEN push you around sister!

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  44. Perhaps, 'sub-human' is a bit strong. Maybe, 'seriously deluded/disdurbed',might be more apt.

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    1. You're right calling someone "seriously deluded and disturbed" is a lot more acceptable. At least you're only calling them mentally ill then and sound less like you want to put them to death. Poor deluded Tee-Gees, they just need drugs, therapy and a stay in the looney bin imho.

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    2. Personally? I don't wish any ill upon the transgendered what-so-ever! I just want them to stop tacking themselves on our coat tails! It's that simple really! Be gender variant if that is who you are! Feel free to express your self through the art of gender queer! You have my full and complete blessings and support to do so!

      But stop with the umbrella already! OK?

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  45. These MEN should MAN UP and act like the MEN they are! They we'rent BORN with a vagina, you can't be a woman unless you're BORN WITH A VAGINA!!! Stop insisting you're "female" just because because you paid a doctor to give you an innie. Why aren't we locking up these mentally ill FREAKS???

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    1. I'm leaving this here because it points out the damage that is done every single day by the TG to those who really must correct their sex or die trying! Because make no mistake! Those of us born TS are painfully aware of the biology and are under no delusions in that regard!

      But there in lies the problem! Being split between a sexual id, (this is id as in Freudian id, not ID) which is of one sex and a body that is of the other! Find a way for the id to be corrected and I dare say that those who have not already corrected the body as far as science will allow. Will more than gladly take you up on it! Until then, there is no other option for us...
      MKIA

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